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chaos49090
waz up everybody hope someone can help me. i have a 86 regal with a 350 and i just install 5" cups all the way around and added longer shocks.by the way i cut the front cups down to 1 1/4. just took the car for a ride and it rides like shit now.lifted 4 23"
TRACE
drama.gif Whats the problem??
941cutty
ya wats it ride real stiff? maybe the springs are to bunched up and tight or the shocks you got are real stiff shocks so its not movin like stock so its a ruffer ride
chaos49090
it rides very stiff like real bouncy i have brand new shock all the way around
TRACE
QUOTE (chaos49090 @ Nov 5 2009, 04:27 PM) *
it rides very stiff like real bouncy i have brand new shock all the way around


Once u put the rims on...it will calm down!!
941cutty
did you change out the springs and add heavy duty truk springs? cuz i kno those ride pretty stiff
chaos49090
no i have stock springs.and thats how its rides with the rims on. feels like the front has no give.if i put down on the car it doesnt even move in the front
alvin
sound like you max your shit out ..put some extended a arm on it
chaos49090
QUOTE (alvin @ Nov 5 2009, 09:28 PM) *
sound like you max your shit out ..put some extended a arm on it

i have my a arms extended because when i install the cups my wheels tilted in at the top
TRACE
drama.gif!!
chaos49090
QUOTE (TRACE @ Nov 6 2009, 08:57 AM) *
drama.gif!!

what u think trace caz im really tryin to get this car goin
alvin
QUOTE (chaos49090 @ Nov 6 2009, 10:48 AM) *
what u think trace caz im really tryin to get this car goin


so u said it has a stiff bounce ?? ....i would cut th cup down some more or get a ballgoint extetnder .....your spindle may not be extended long enoght ..did you do it yourself
TRACE
QUOTE (chaos49090 @ Nov 6 2009, 03:48 PM) *
what u think trace caz im really tryin to get this car goin


Do u remember how tall the front cup is...It shouldnt be no taller than 1 1/2 inches!!
chaos49090
QUOTE (TRACE @ Nov 6 2009, 12:00 PM) *
Do u remember how tall the front cup is...It shouldnt be no taller than 1 1/2 inches!!

i had the front cups cut down to 1 1/4
chaos49090
QUOTE (alvin @ Nov 6 2009, 11:58 AM) *
so u said it has a stiff bounce ?? ....i would cut th cup down some more or get a ballgoint extetnder .....your spindle may not be extended long enoght ..did you do it yourself

yeah it rides very stiff to the point where i dont even want to drive it. yeah i install the cups myself.
TRACE
QUOTE (chaos49090 @ Nov 6 2009, 04:52 PM) *
i had the front cups cut down to 1 1/4


My bad...i missed that up top...but...thats the sacrifice u have to make when u make when u alter suspension...no car with 4 inch + lift is gonna ride like a caddy...ive lifed plenty of cars with the same stuff u got on urs and more...and they rode pretty decent...i dont think its as bouncy as u make it out to be...do u got any vids of the car going up and down the street??
chaos49090
QUOTE (TRACE @ Nov 6 2009, 01:00 PM) *
My bad...i missed that up top...but...thats the sacrifice u have to make when u make when u alter suspension...no car with 4 inch + lift is gonna ride like a caddy...ive lifed plenty of cars with the same stuff u got on urs and more...and they rode pretty decent...i dont think its as bouncy as u make it out to be...do u got any vids of the car going up and down the street??

what parts do i need to make it ride like stock. and i will try to make a video later today.also trace did i need longer shocks.because i install some that were for a 73 buick electra
TRACE
QUOTE (chaos49090 @ Nov 6 2009, 06:08 PM) *
what parts do i need to make it ride like stock.


Stock parts!!
941cutty
if it dont move at alll it sound like eitha you got wrong shox or maxed errything out like trace said,,,cuz they got no movement cuz of that
TRACE
QUOTE (941cutty @ Nov 6 2009, 07:54 PM) *
if it dont move at alll it sound like eitha you got wrong shox or maxed errything out like trace said,,,cuz they got no movement cuz of that


Im a tell u whats funny...my car is stiff...if u put ur hands on the hood...and push down...it wont move...LOL...but that bitch ride like it aint lifted..granted...it DOESNT ride like a caddy...but its smooth ass ride for a lifted car...and what people fail to realize...is 99% of the time...that stiffness is whats saving ur tires..may people jump into the game expecting their car to drive like factory once they lift it(rather they lift it an inch or 12 inches)...aint gonna happen...its one of negatives of what we do...as long as ur car aint bouncing like a basketball while u riding...i say tough it out!!
alvin
QUOTE (TRACE @ Nov 6 2009, 04:42 PM) *
Im a tell u whats funny...my car is stiff...if u put ur hands on the hood...and push down...it wont move...LOL...but that bitch ride like it aint lifted..granted...it DOESNT ride like a caddy...but its smooth ass ride for a lifted car...and what people fail to realize...is 99% of the time...that stiffness is whats saving ur tires..may people jump into the game expecting their car to drive like factory once they lift it(rather they lift it an inch or 12 inches)...aint gonna happen...its one of negatives of what we do...as long as ur car aint bouncing like a basketball while u riding...i say tough it out!!


yeah lik u said ...i just had to move my car to a garage for th winter and iv only lifted the back end so far . like he said its not going to ride lik stock ...but if u do it right it should ride decent !!
blockburna561
What about taking the cup out of there, and using the s-10 lift spindles. That will soften up the ride and you will be lifted. But trace said it being stiff would be a good thing on the tires.

What size tires you running? You could of went with the continental 25 series tire and wouldn't need a lift. That's the route I should of went. You should to if you want a smooth ride.
chaos49090
QUOTE (blockburna561 @ Nov 7 2009, 10:35 AM) *
What about taking the cup out of there, and using the s-10 lift spindles. That will soften up the ride and you will be lifted. But trace said it being stiff would be a good thing on the tires.

What size tires you running? You could of went with the continental 25 series tire and wouldn't need a lift. That's the route I should of went. You should to if you want a smooth ride.

295/35/23

QUOTE (blockburna561 @ Nov 7 2009, 10:35 AM) *
What about taking the cup out of there, and using the s-10 lift spindles. That will soften up the ride and you will be lifted. But trace said it being stiff would be a good thing on the tires.

What size tires you running? You could of went with the continental 25 series tire and wouldn't need a lift. That's the route I should of went. You should to if you want a smooth ride.

295/35/23
941cutty
QUOTE (TRACE @ Nov 6 2009, 04:42 PM) *
Im a tell u whats funny...my car is stiff...if u put ur hands on the hood...and push down...it wont move...LOL...but that bitch ride like it aint lifted..granted...it DOESNT ride like a caddy...but its smooth ass ride for a lifted car...and what people fail to realize...is 99% of the time...that stiffness is whats saving ur tires..may people jump into the game expecting their car to drive like factory once they lift it(rather they lift it an inch or 12 inches)...aint gonna happen...its one of negatives of what we do...as long as ur car aint bouncing like a basketball while u riding...i say tough it out!!

yup x2 on this...i mean think bout ti you are altering your suspension...even if you juz add like heavy duty springs to lift alil its gonna be alil roguher then stock becuz the springs are stiffer plain n simple
blockburna561
I don't know bro the only thing I can say is go back to stock suspension if you want a smoother ride and get the continental 315/25R23 tire they gone run bout 800.00 that's what I had got them priced for. Or just ride high and rough, I did it for a bit it gets old fast tho. I'm dropping my bubble down to stock. I may lift it again with some lift spindles. It should be a lot smoother.
chaos49090
i found out the problem today on the car. the upper a-arm hits the frame when u hit a bump.so what could i do to fix this.
941cutty
eitha put exterded a-arms or bang in the frame alil bit were it hits..sumtymes its juz alil bit that hits..alil heat n a big hammer can fix that
TRACE
drama.gif Do u got factory or aftermarket a-arms??
chaos49090
QUOTE (TRACE @ Nov 9 2009, 04:29 PM) *
drama.gif Do u got factory or aftermarket a-arms??

factory
TRACE
QUOTE (chaos49090 @ Nov 10 2009, 12:16 AM) *
factory


U need to make sure ur bump-stop is still in there!!
St. Pete
QUOTE (TRACE @ Nov 6 2009, 09:42 PM) *
Im a tell u whats funny...my car is stiff...if u put ur hands on the hood...and push down...it wont move...LOL...but that bitch ride like it aint lifted..granted...it DOESNT ride like a caddy...but its smooth ass ride for a lifted car...and what people fail to realize...is 99% of the time...that stiffness is whats saving ur tires..may people jump into the game expecting their car to drive like factory once they lift it(rather they lift it an inch or 12 inches)...aint gonna happen...its one of negatives of what we do...as long as ur car aint bouncing like a basketball while u riding...i say tough it out!!



Only a vet can say some shit like this.


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Lift spindles and air shocks would do the trick.
Landau
941cutty
QUOTE (Landau @ Nov 25 2009, 04:58 PM) *

lol that .gif retarded but funnny
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