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Donkryder954
been saying it but finally got around to it and bought me an audioque 18 d2 today ..wanna do a 1 18 setup in a Crown vic ( I kno everyone doin it now dry.gif ) but yea wanna run it on a Crunch Ground pounder 3000...Would 3 k daily be to much for it ...oh yea its the cooper coil one
crownvic02
yes
CROWN99
yeah just get a GP 2500 like me
http://cgi.ebay.com/CRUNCH-NEW-GPV2000-1-A...id=p3286.c0.m14
Donkryder954
QUOTE (CROWN99 @ Sep 14 2009, 08:43 AM) *



i dont kno man that series of crunch dont seem worth it ...I think with the rite box it can handle 3k daily ..and im getting A 3K rms for about $315 ...cant go wrong with that soulja.gif
Audio Advice
3k is the usual RMS people run to the HDC3's.

Good to go.

RMS is pointless IMO with the more you learn about audio.

Power handling depends greatly on the box.

My boy wenn ran 4k rms to a hdc3 12" no problems.
crownvic02
QUOTE (Audio Advice @ Sep 14 2009, 02:48 PM) *
3k is the usual RMS people run to the HDC3's.

Good to go.

RMS is pointless IMO with the more you learn about subs.

Power handling depends greatly on the box.

My boy wenn ran 4k rms to a hdc3 12"

3k to 1 hdc3 with copper coils = user better know what tha fuck he doing + box gotta be on point + the power has to be clean as fuck, but most the people "I" have seen on caraudio.com/caco doesn't run them full tilt for a long period of time so idk, when it comes to 3k to 1 of them
Audio Advice
From the many testimonials given by AQ owners, there isnt much of a difference in power handling between the Aluminum & copper coils, True it has to do with cooling, but came to the conclusion that its kinda over-hyped.

Just keep an eye and nose on the sub.

Especially this beingthe 18" it will handle it.
Donkryder954
yea i know need a good box builder in the 954 or 305 .....anyone got any recomendations ?? looking at about 6 cubes tuned to 35hz ...should make some nosie in the vic
crownvic02
QUOTE (Audio Advice @ Sep 14 2009, 03:06 PM) *
From the many testimonials given by AQ owners, there isnt much of a difference in power handling between the Aluminum & copper coils, True it has to do with cooling, but came to the conclusion that its kinda over-hyped.

Just keep an eye and nose on the sub.

Especially this beingthe 18" it will handle it.

y i wouldn't do it, anything i gotta baby and watch fuck it
Me&MyVic
QUOTE (Donkryder954 @ Sep 15 2009, 12:00 AM) *
yea i know need a good box builder in the 954 or 305 .....anyone got any recomendations ?? looking at about 6 cubes tuned to 35hz ...should make some nosie in the vic

biggrin.gif 3K is a stretch but go for it. On my AQ2200 I have never smelled the coils. After imp rise and voltage drops you may be fine anyways.
Audio Advice
QUOTE (crownvic02 @ Sep 15 2009, 12:13 AM) *
y i wouldn't do it, anything i gotta baby and watch fuck it


I respect what ya saying but im not saying baby it...

most likely he doesnt really know what he doing so he will blast it full tilt for who knows how long but I still say it will be fine.

After imp rise, voltage he will be aye ok.

I wouldnt go 6 cubes and running 3k...try 4.5-5 cubes.

smaller box allows you to run more power.
crownvic02
If he plays a low bass heavy song I doubt the imp rise be high, played those btls below tuning to long n they would heat up after 3-4 songs, n the imp wouldn't go higher than 1.3, speaking for the simple fact he is in Florida n slowed music is the choice of style here, I wouldn't recommend what he is doing, I have talked to a few cats about those aq's n they have all said they play the lows very well, but tend to get warm after 2-3 songs playing below tuning n most of them were only running 1.5-2k n tez said he has heard the same thing from aq owners, so that's why I said I wouldn't recommend that much power to it
Donkryder954
QUOTE (Audio Advice @ Sep 15 2009, 09:58 PM) *
I respect what ya saying but im not saying baby it...

most likely he doesnt really know what he doing so he will blast it full tilt for who knows how long but I still say it will be fine.

After imp rise, voltage he will be aye ok.

I wouldnt go 6 cubes and running 3k...try 4.5-5 cubes.

smaller box allows you to run more power.


... this guy dry.gif .... thing is i do kno what im doin ..
Audio Advice
QUOTE (Donkryder954 @ Sep 15 2009, 11:13 PM) *
... this guy dry.gif .... thing is i do kno what im doin ..


huh.gif

Ok since you know what ya doing, then dont make a thread asking about it.

Go ahead and blow it to pieces with what you think you know.

/thread.
Donkryder954
QUOTE (Audio Advice @ Sep 16 2009, 08:07 PM) *
huh.gif

Ok since you know what ya doing, then dont make a thread asking about it.

Go ahead and blow it to pieces with what you think you know.

/thread.



Damn most niggas on here be on here just to HAATEE.. WE ALL KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT YOU TALKIKING BOUT BUT damn get off my nuts .. asked a question for yo opinion ...
Audio Advice
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teezy
Ok, im going to get things back on subject and offer a few opinions about the HDC3s

Personally, 3k on a copper coil HDC3 is ok, id just be careful, thats alot of power going through it. The alumnum coil is better suited for high power like that, but id still be careful with that much power.

Crownvic02 mention about babying subs, ......its not that dawg, you just have to be careful. Alot of times, your subs will let you know when they are being worked too hard, usually by smelling them or being extremely hot. I could get that 18 dust cap hot if I wanted too, but never came close to blowing the sub, because i was careful, and I beat on that bitch everyday. biggrin.gif

Now with the tuning, you can tune a HDC3 low like 33 or 32hz and it will be fine. But, theirs a trade off. Your upper bass notes will suffer badly. My homeboy has a pair of the 10s off a AQ 3500D that was tuned to 33hz at first, but bumped it up to 38hz (he was using external areo ports, just cut them down to bump up the tuning) and his lows were still strong as ever, but his upper bass was much better and stronger.

For the HDC3s, I feel 35hz is perfect, DJ, the owner of AQ feels the same way.

Any sub playing below tuning is going to get warm, I know a guy online that plays his below tuning all the time, he adds low bass to tracks, so his subs drop all the time, tuned to 35hz. His AQs are fine.

I can vouch for those subs though, they got lows for days.

Ok, im done, and if anybody need a 18" I got mine for sale.
Audio Advice
Good Write Up.
crownvic02
QUOTE (teezy @ Sep 17 2009, 03:01 PM) *
Crownvic02 mention about babying subs, ......its not that dawg, you just have to be careful. Alot of times, your subs will let you know when they are being worked too hard, usually by smelling them or being extremely hot. I could get that 18 dust cap hot if I wanted too, but never came close to blowing the sub, because i was careful, and I beat on that bitch everyday. biggrin.gif


being careful babying all the same, shit if i have to stay alert for a smell i don't want it, if it's one thing i could do with those strokers and those 4 12s, i had that shit full tilt, and walk away from the car with not having to think worry or any doubt about the subs going hot, now thats the setups i want, thats why this next setup i'm not overpowering any subs, tunning low (4 12s) which i may go sealed (4 15s) because until i went ported i figured out i am picky about my music
Audio Advice
F yo couch
Donkryder954
Box is done ..box is done !! been a lil broke lately but just got this box built to spec by DJ ..which is 5.5 cubes tuned to 38 hz ..double baffled with kerf port...ALL on my gp3000d ..time to make the trunk dance (Meandmyvic and tezzy im coming for YOU) lol
Me&MyVic
thumbsup.gif Box looks good...Dont forget to break the sub in first. Oh and youtube is a must.
Audio Advice
allgood.gif!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Donkryder954
yea i know a couple hours of break in ..but the box should be in by saturday ..ayye if you guys need a box built you can get a quote from my dude who built my box ...he does great work and has his own shop with a cnc machine !!!.. he in GA and he ships
crownvic02
good shit, but fuck all that, i'm coming for all yall fuck niggas fighting0001.gif
teezy
QUOTE (Donkryder954 @ Oct 22 2009, 02:03 PM) *
Box is done ..box is done !! been a lil broke lately but just got this box built to spec by DJ ..which is 5.5 cubes tuned to 38 hz ..double baffled with kerf port...ALL on my gp3000d ..time to make the trunk dance (Meandmyvic and tezzy im coming for YOU) lol



Box looks mean homie, me likes. biggrin.gif Going to sound even better.


QUOTE (Me&MyVic @ Oct 22 2009, 03:51 PM) *
thumbsup.gif Box looks good...Dont forget to break the sub in first. Oh and youtube is a must.



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QUOTE (Donkryder954 @ Oct 23 2009, 12:24 AM) *
yea i know a couple hours of break in ..but the box should be in by saturday ..ayye if you guys need a box built you can get a quote from my dude who built my box ...he does great work and has his own shop with a cnc machine !!!.. he in GA and he ships



PMed.

QUOTE (crownvic02 @ Oct 23 2009, 12:55 AM) *
good shit, but fuck all that, i'm coming for all yall fuck niggas fighting0001.gif



Give me time nigga, I got something down the turn pike, but cant dump all my money into audio, I need some rims a little fresh paint lol.
Audio Advice
Damn all yall, my room gone shut all yall down. drama.gif
Donkryder954
QUOTE (teezy @ Oct 23 2009, 02:04 PM) *
Box looks mean homie, me likes. biggrin.gif Going to sound even better.





x2




PMed.




Give me time nigga, I got something down the turn pike, but cant dump all my money into audio, I need some rims a little fresh paint lol.




PMed back
Me&MyVic
QUOTE (teezy @ Oct 23 2009, 02:04 PM) *
Give me time nigga, I got something down the turn pike, but cant dump all my money into audio, I need some rims a little fresh paint lol.


X2...Couldn't have said this no better myself...Yall can have this money trap for a while.

Gotta go give so demos now, I dont get home too often. You would think after one year my system would have gotten old to these people down here...lol

I might make a few videos if the rain clears.
teezy
QUOTE (Me&MyVic @ Oct 23 2009, 06:04 PM) *
X2...Couldn't have said this no better myself...Yall can have this money trap for a while.

Gotta go give so demos now, I dont get home too often. You would think after one year my system would have gotten old to these people down here...lol

I might make a few videos if the rain clears.



Sounds like a plan, I need to head up that way myself soon, I got a cousin that stays in Southern Pine, I have not been to NC since 06
Me&MyVic
QUOTE (teezy @ Oct 23 2009, 10:39 PM) *
Sounds like a plan, I need to head up that way myself soon, I got a cousin that stays in Southern Pine, I have not been to NC since 06

Damn I am 15 mins from Southern Pines when I am at my moms house. I use to work at Wal-Mart there back in the day.
Donkryder954
ayye yall boys think for a lil while i can run my rockford 800.2 and gp3000d alrite on 2 bluetop a stock alt and a diehard battery up front with the big 3 til i get my money for a 250 amp alt ?

ayye yall boys think for a lil while i can run my rockford 800.2 and gp3000d alrite on 2 bluetop a stock alt and a diehard battery up front with the big 3 til i get my money for a 250 amp alt ?
crownvic02
you gone have some low voltage, and your batts are gonna die quick, depending on how much you plan on playing it, but i wouldn't suggest it period
Audio Advice
I wouldn't do that.
Donkryder954
what you suggest i get ...hc2400 ..pm3100 ..nsb125 ...i can get a nsb for 250 or two 100ah cd technology batts for 250
SKEEMASK
QUOTE (CROWN99 @ Sep 14 2009, 12:43 PM) *

thats only a 1000watt amp
l!no
It really depends on what car it is and the stock specs of the stock alt. I'm running right now the ap3k on stock batt + stock alt. and one g34 in the trunk and my voltage doesn't go below twelve full tilt with lights off but ac on. With everything on i drop to 11.8-.9. But thats because I'm also running 1500wrms+ of class a/b which sucks serious current.

I know someone with a newer explorer with a g34 up front and g34 in the back and running the audiopipe amp and he doesn't drop below 13 all day.

Scottie J. even said the new alts. on like hemi chargers and etc. are better for Dailys than upgraded alts. because of how much amperage the stock alts. put out at idle.
Audio Advice
I agree.

They are stock high output alts.

i think the ones that come on most newer cars 120-140amp
crownvic02
let the vic expert step in on this one................. don't do it brah, but you will have voltage drops in the high 10s to low 11s, when i ran a 1600 brutus on my stock alt man my voltage use to drop down to 10s all the time with no lights on and no second amp for highs just a tha damn sub amp.... so i'mma suggest you get that alt there buddy
l!no
QUOTE (crownvic02 @ Oct 26 2009, 05:12 PM) *
let the vic expert step in on this one................. don't do it brah, but you will have voltage drops in the high 10s to low 11s, when i ran a 1600 brutus on my stock alt man my voltage use to drop down to 10s all the time with no lights on and no second amp for highs just a tha damn sub amp.... so i'mma suggest you get that alt there buddy


What year Vic is it though? Thats makes all the difference....
crownvic02
QUOTE (l!no @ Oct 26 2009, 05:35 PM) *
What year Vic is it though? Thats makes all the difference....

nope all vic's from 01 and up use the same alt, only exception is if he has a interceptor, which will help him out a lil bit
Donkryder954
yea year play a difference i got an 03 Interceptor ..and the 04 or 05 come with 180 or 200amp alts i think .but hey i got a 130 amp alt in that bitch .
crownvic02
QUOTE (Donkryder954 @ Oct 26 2009, 06:05 PM) *
yea year play a difference i got an 03 Interceptor ..and the 04 or 05 come with 180 or 200amp alts i think .but hey i got a 130 amp alt in that bitch .

yeah yo voltage gone drop to the 11s, but no all vic alts are 120-135
l!no
Yeh i mean it depends on how hard you gon be beating on it. The alt. in my impala is a 130amp alt. and i dropped to the numbers i posted above with just 1 g34 in the back. But i don't know. The crunch is a current hog compared to other shit i seen in the same power range. My boy had one..stock alt. with just a powermaster d3100 in the trunk and dropped to 11.7 i believe. Switched to a sundown 3k and he had a tough time dropping below 13 and only thing he changed was the amp.
Donkryder954
QUOTE (l!no @ Oct 26 2009, 07:12 PM) *
Yeh i mean it depends on how hard you gon be beating on it. The alt. in my impala is a 130amp alt. and i dropped to the numbers i posted above with just 1 g34 in the back. But i don't know. The crunch is a current hog compared to other shit i seen in the same power range. My boy had one..stock alt. with just a powermaster d3100 in the trunk and dropped to 11.7 i believe. Switched to a sundown 3k and he had a tough time dropping below 13 and only thing he changed was the amp.


damn i have a chance to trade for an american bass xd3000d ..i think i mite need to trade for it ..its rated at 2500 at 13.8 volts ...so at 14 im sure it can do 3k rms +
Audio Advice
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l!no
I mean the crunch is a nice amp that does power, it's just it's kind of a hog. But if you have the chance to trade it i would. The crunch's are known for blowing for no reason at all. They tried to save space and have the mosfets mounted standing up with some bad soldering techniques so one end up falling off from vibrations and blowing the amp. But this goes for some other amps too, like the memphis 4k for example. If you mount the amp right though..i.e. not on the box and on a solid foundation you don't have to worry about this though. Shit i'm even thinking about copping the 2 gp3k's real soon
Audio Advice
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Donkryder954
QUOTE (l!no @ Oct 26 2009, 10:12 PM) *
I mean the crunch is a nice amp that does power, it's just it's kind of a hog. But if you have the chance to trade it i would. The crunch's are known for blowing for no reason at all. They tried to save space and have the mosfets mounted standing up with some bad soldering techniques so one end up falling off from vibrations and blowing the amp. But this goes for some other amps too, like the memphis 4k for example. If you mount the amp right though..i.e. not on the box and on a solid foundation you don't have to worry about this though. Shit i'm even thinking about copping the 2 gp3k's real soon



Shit well im roll wit the crunch and see how it sounds ..install it real soon..but hey seen vids of you setup on here a while back ..wanted to run t3 myself ..shit im in da dale too so i guess you can always check my shit out
Me&MyVic
I just checked my voltage this weekend and I drop to 13.4 and thats with my AQ2200 and MTX4004. With massive clipping it was 12.8 but I never play it like that, I was just checking how low I could get it to go. I got this T5002 in now and need to check it again. But its still pretty good for 1 HC2400, stock 130amp alt, and all 1/0 wire.
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