we all know there is a price tag on going with this high ass paint and shit and we all know that true kandy will eventually fade some. So wat about the outrageous shit? Is there any flaws with this shit as of yet and if so how long will it take.
I know kandy fades faser with everyday riding and washing the hell out of yo shit and leaving it in the sun but my charger hasnt faded bad at all and its been kandy for 2years and i be in dat bitch and i never cover up well until i bolted the 6s up!!!
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QUOTE (lil juice @ Jun 29 2009, 09:53 PM) 
we all know there is a price tag on going with this high ass paint and shit and we all know that true kandy will eventually fade some. So wat about the outrageous shit? Is there any flaws with this shit as of yet and if so how long will it take.
I know kandy fades faser with everyday riding and washing the hell out of yo shit and leaving it in the sun but my charger hasnt faded bad at all and its been kandy for 2years and i be in dat bitch and i never cover up well until i bolted the 6s up!!!
I know kandy fades faser with everyday riding and washing the hell out of yo shit and leaving it in the sun but my charger hasnt faded bad at all and its been kandy for 2years and i be in dat bitch and i never cover up well until i bolted the 6s up!!!
A True kandy won't fade if it's done right. When painter's start cheatin shooting 2 or 3 coats of over a light base is when you get fading issues. Also when they use concentrates and cheap clears. All my kandies get at least 5-6 coats of Kandy and 5-6 coats of high solids clear. I have never shot outrageous, but it's look to only be a flip flop pearl with heavy metallic, so if it's covered with some good clear I doubt it would fade.
Well I ask this question...
How long you plan on keeping the same paint job on your car?
Cause down here we like to switch paints atleast once every year. (maybe thats one of the reasons our kandy is so cheap) We don't even have the same color long enough to see it fade.
My dawg had a red Merc sprayed by Willie and it finally needed to be resprayed 2 years later. Car was a daily driver and sat under the sun everyday. He took it back to Willie and he resprayed it for like $600. (same color) Now it's leakin wet wet again.
Somebodys green shit back there glowin!
How long you plan on keeping the same paint job on your car?
Cause down here we like to switch paints atleast once every year. (maybe thats one of the reasons our kandy is so cheap) We don't even have the same color long enough to see it fade.
My dawg had a red Merc sprayed by Willie and it finally needed to be resprayed 2 years later. Car was a daily driver and sat under the sun everyday. He took it back to Willie and he resprayed it for like $600. (same color) Now it's leakin wet wet again.
Somebodys green shit back there glowin!
QUOTE (impryder @ Jun 30 2009, 03:35 AM)
A True kandy won't fade if it's done right. When painter's start cheatin shooting 2 or 3 coats of over a light base is when you get fading issues. Also when they use concentrates and cheap clears. All my kandies get at least 5-6 coats of Kandy and 5-6 coats of high solids clear. I have never shot outrageous, but it's look to only be a flip flop pearl with heavy metallic, so if it's covered with some good clear I doubt it would fade.
5-6 coats of clear is alot anyways. Know how to cut and buff you dont need all that shit. And kandy will fade, ive heard pink fades the fastest.
5-6 coats of clearrr... ru serious.. u def gonna be seeing spider hair line cracks in that bitch... that shit must be some thin as clear if ur putting that much on there.... a medium based clear 2-3 coats should be good..........my dude over he be giving a 7 yr no bull shit warranty on his kandy but u gonna pay 3 stacks for it
im bout to put 3-4 coat of clear just to be safe. then wet sand it with 2000 grit and then spray clear once more that's it. no buffin or anything.
QUOTE (capinpimp @ Jun 30 2009, 04:45 AM)
5-6 coats of clear is alot anyways. Know how to cut and buff you dont need all that shit. And kandy will fade, ive heard pink fades the fastest.
I know how to cut and buff. 5-6 coats isn't for shine it for UV protection. I can shoot two coats of clear and get the shine I want. HOK tells you not to put pink on anything but a show vehicle because it will fade.
QUOTE (fam0516 @ Jun 30 2009, 04:57 AM)
5-6 coats of clearrr... ru serious.. u def gonna be seeing spider hair line cracks in that bitch... that shit must be some thin as clear if ur putting that much on there.... a medium based clear 2-3 coats should be good..........my dude over he be giving a 7 yr no bull shit warranty on his kandy but u gonna pay 3 stacks for it
I'm not dumping 5-6 coats on at one time. Shoot 2-3, colorsand, and them come back and shoot the remaining coats. I only use high solids clears on Kandies. I have cars that I shot over 4 years ago that don't have hairline cracks or have not faded. But like u said, u gonna pay anywhere from $2500 up for it.
1.I dunno why people on here are under the missconception(sp) that Candies coming from HOK arent dies(concentrates)
2.All candies are concentrated before they get to you. The only diff between them and you is that they know how to mix it! And most of the paint stores mix the paint or candies in the back so you dont see what a candie really is , and most of yall order HOK so you really dont see it
3. ALL a candie is a die (concentrate) mixed with a clear base coat. some mixed at a 10 % ratio . and others a little more. and using a candie over a lighter base shouldnt cause fading, just means stuff wasnt sprayed correctly.
4. And cheap clear doesnt ness not last longer then expensive clear...a lot of people cant even tell the diff between the two if sprayed correctly. I sprayed inexpensive clear on a expensive job just to see what people would say ( cause people talk shit about how much they know about paint) and they was hoppin around the car talkin bout how the car was so wet.. car never faded
I agree that high solids clear is better but dont be under the missconception that the less expensive clear is gonna go to shit on you 6 mo or even a year later.
I only use 6 coats if im doin a job where lines or textures have to be covered.
2.All candies are concentrated before they get to you. The only diff between them and you is that they know how to mix it! And most of the paint stores mix the paint or candies in the back so you dont see what a candie really is , and most of yall order HOK so you really dont see it
3. ALL a candie is a die (concentrate) mixed with a clear base coat. some mixed at a 10 % ratio . and others a little more. and using a candie over a lighter base shouldnt cause fading, just means stuff wasnt sprayed correctly.
4. And cheap clear doesnt ness not last longer then expensive clear...a lot of people cant even tell the diff between the two if sprayed correctly. I sprayed inexpensive clear on a expensive job just to see what people would say ( cause people talk shit about how much they know about paint) and they was hoppin around the car talkin bout how the car was so wet.. car never faded
I agree that high solids clear is better but dont be under the missconception that the less expensive clear is gonna go to shit on you 6 mo or even a year later.
I only use 6 coats if im doin a job where lines or textures have to be covered.
QUOTE (HIGHlow KusTumZ @ Jul 1 2009, 05:07 AM)
1.I dunno why people on here are under the missconception(sp) that Candies coming from HOK arent dies(concentrates)
2.All candies are concentrated before they get to you. The only diff between them and you is that they know how to mix it! And most of the paint stores mix the paint or candies in the back so you dont see what a candie really is , and most of yall order HOK so you really dont see it
3. ALL a candie is a die (concentrate) mixed with a clear base coat. some mixed at a 10 % ratio . and others a little more. and using a candie over a lighter base shouldnt cause fading, just means stuff wasnt sprayed correctly.
4. And cheap clear doesnt ness not last longer then expensive clear...a lot of people cant even tell the diff between the two if sprayed correctly. I sprayed inexpensive clear on a expensive job just to see what people would say ( cause people talk shit about how much they know about paint) and they was hoppin around the car talkin bout how the car was so wet.. car never faded
I agree that high solids clear is better but dont be under the missconception that the less expensive clear is gonna go to shit on you 6 mo or even a year later.
I only use 6 coats if im doin a job where lines or textures have to be covered.
2.All candies are concentrated before they get to you. The only diff between them and you is that they know how to mix it! And most of the paint stores mix the paint or candies in the back so you dont see what a candie really is , and most of yall order HOK so you really dont see it
3. ALL a candie is a die (concentrate) mixed with a clear base coat. some mixed at a 10 % ratio . and others a little more. and using a candie over a lighter base shouldnt cause fading, just means stuff wasnt sprayed correctly.
4. And cheap clear doesnt ness not last longer then expensive clear...a lot of people cant even tell the diff between the two if sprayed correctly. I sprayed inexpensive clear on a expensive job just to see what people would say ( cause people talk shit about how much they know about paint) and they was hoppin around the car talkin bout how the car was so wet.. car never faded
I agree that high solids clear is better but dont be under the missconception that the less expensive clear is gonna go to shit on you 6 mo or even a year later.
I only use 6 coats if im doin a job where lines or textures have to be covered.
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QUOTE (HIGHlow KusTumZ @ Jul 1 2009, 12:07 AM)
1.I dunno why people on here are under the missconception(sp) that Candies coming from HOK arent dies(concentrates)
2.All candies are concentrated before they get to you. The only diff between them and you is that they know how to mix it! And most of the paint stores mix the paint or candies in the back so you dont see what a candie really is , and most of yall order HOK so you really dont see it
3. ALL a candie is a die (concentrate) mixed with a clear base coat. some mixed at a 10 % ratio . and others a little more. and using a candie over a lighter base shouldnt cause fading, just means stuff wasnt sprayed correctly.
4. And cheap clear doesnt ness not last longer then expensive clear...a lot of people cant even tell the diff between the two if sprayed correctly. I sprayed inexpensive clear on a expensive job just to see what people would say ( cause people talk shit about how much they know about paint) and they was hoppin around the car talkin bout how the car was so wet.. car never faded
I agree that high solids clear is better but dont be under the missconception that the less expensive clear is gonna go to shit on you 6 mo or even a year later.
I only use 6 coats if im doin a job where lines or textures have to be covered.
2.All candies are concentrated before they get to you. The only diff between them and you is that they know how to mix it! And most of the paint stores mix the paint or candies in the back so you dont see what a candie really is , and most of yall order HOK so you really dont see it
3. ALL a candie is a die (concentrate) mixed with a clear base coat. some mixed at a 10 % ratio . and others a little more. and using a candie over a lighter base shouldnt cause fading, just means stuff wasnt sprayed correctly.
4. And cheap clear doesnt ness not last longer then expensive clear...a lot of people cant even tell the diff between the two if sprayed correctly. I sprayed inexpensive clear on a expensive job just to see what people would say ( cause people talk shit about how much they know about paint) and they was hoppin around the car talkin bout how the car was so wet.. car never faded
I agree that high solids clear is better but dont be under the missconception that the less expensive clear is gonna go to shit on you 6 mo or even a year later.
I only use 6 coats if im doin a job where lines or textures have to be covered.
X 20
So many people swear they know about paint it's ridiculous!
People don't understand that, that's all paint is, is pigment (dye, concentrate whatever you want to call it) mixed with a base, whether it be clear, a light base or a dark base.
and DEFINITELY a high solids clear is better, but hot all high solids are expensive, just gotta know who to order from...
A piss-poor paint job will fade regardless of color... nuff said.
also, not ENOUGH clear can promote fading, due to lack of UV protection... clear coat is like sunscreen for paint.
A properly painted piece though... will last quite some time... but as mentioned by someone else, down here, paint jobs are switched like underwear... but I STILL do a great job...
I HAVE A 86 MONTE CARLO AND IM DEBATING ON WHAT COLOR I SHOULD GO WITH.H.O.K BRANDY WINE,LIME GOLD,ORGANIC GREEN OR GRAPE JELLY HELP ME OUT PEOPLE AND ARE THERE ANY GOOD PAINTERS NEAR THE CLEVELAND OHIO AREA
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