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G Body
I am the guy with the kandied out 383 kandy green/(green monster)!! I was wondering if the price for all this sound right or not?? it all came out to like 9,100 something. motor heads let me know if i over spent or it is right!!

Pollished intake 225.00
chrome bolt kit 45.00
air cleaner,chrome 40.00
dip stick chrome 15.00
dist hold down chrome 15.00
wire seperators chrome 35.00
hose kitsomthing and labor chrome 100.00
cam and lifters 228/234 480/484 112 150.00
timing cover chrome double rolll over 35.00
spring kit double spring .525 lift 80.00
port heads 300.00
spark plugs 25.00
valves 2.02 1.60 m,anley stanless steel 120.00
misc may not use 200.00
labor 1000.00
stroker kit ballance 10/compblock .030 eagle crank and rodsclearenced lightend and ballanced 1350.00
machine shop valve job,guides,shaveand check crank 390.00
radiator aluminum high flow 250.00
fan and shroud 2200cfm 170.00
fan controls and wirering 150.00
wires taylor sun pro 409 90.00
front end engine bay paint and materials 2000.00
fuel pump chrome 7 psihigh flow 10.00
gaskets feel pro 135.00
oil pump melony high volume 40.00
Turbo 350 SS lines and fluid 1350.00
water pump pollished 45gph 100.00
fuel plate 10.00
chrome oil pan 75.00
rocker arms prv1.5 ratalum,roller rockers 199.99
valve cover,billet alum 100.00
carb fuel line chrome 20.00
tst 160 high flow 20.00
starter high perf 195.00
timminy tab chrome 3.90
oil pick up screen,removed sheild 11.85
fuel pump rod coated with anti friction 21.20
oil pump shaft high stength steel 19.47
brass freeze plugs13.54
St. Pete
if you tell'n me you paid $9,100 for that motor with what you listed & the pic is the final outcome?

you got ripped off!
G Body
QUOTE (St. Pete @ May 13 2009, 03:01 PM) *
if you tell'n me you paid $9,100 for that motor with what you listed & the pic is the final outcome?

you got ripped off!



tell me why you think so and tell me where i coulda got 1 for lower sprayed kandie under the hood everything under the hood clean!! show case quality
crownvic02
man it's shop down there in p-cola spraying wet as fuck for the good number to, a dude i know got his vic sprayed down there and that thang came back wet as fuck, my homeboy got his lincoln town car down there now getting wetted up at the same shop, can't think of the name but they foolish
Mr.24's
QUOTE (St. Pete @ May 13 2009, 04:01 PM) *
if you tell'n me you paid $9,100 for that motor with what you listed & the pic is the final outcome?

you got ripped off!

X2 1350 for a fuckin rotatin assembly is stupid when they going for 600 to 700 balanced and all with the srp or je lightweight piston who in the fuck is doing your car? Cuz i want in on some of this cash
941 Floatin'
am i reading this rite? you paid 2stax juz for the engine bay to get sprayed? lol i hope i read that wrong
Mr.24's
QUOTE (941 Floatin' @ May 13 2009, 07:53 PM) *
am i reading this rite? you paid 2stax juz for the engine bay to get sprayed? lol i hope i read that wrong

You seen that right he is go some money to give away and i want in on it
veltboy618
QUOTE (St. Pete @ May 13 2009, 03:01 PM) *
if you tell'n me you paid $9,100 for that motor with what you listed & the pic is the final outcome?

you got ripped off!


x2 paying that huch was a badidea.gif . You got [code][/code] homie
Mr.24's
QUOTE (veltboy618 @ May 13 2009, 08:18 PM) *
x2 paying that huch was a badidea.gif . You got [code][/code] homie

19.gif Got fuck and dont even know sad.gif
St. Pete
yeah man bad bizz,

hell even some of ya chrome parts on ya motor got rust on em!

everybody plays the fool................. sometimes

BUT SHEEEEEEEEEEEEIT!
G Body
QUOTE (St. Pete @ May 13 2009, 07:28 PM) *
yeah man bad bizz,

hell even some of ya chrome parts on ya motor got rust on em!

everybody plays the fool................. sometimes

BUT SHEEEEEEEEEEEEIT!

i mean this guy thats doing the shit aint just slappin some shit togetger. i got high performance everyyhing so..
G Body
QUOTE (941 Floatin' @ May 13 2009, 06:53 PM) *
am i reading this rite? you paid 2stax juz for the engine bay to get sprayed? lol i hope i read that wrong

they cleant everything up fire wall sprayed frame sprayed and had a lil rust going on they took care of that on my fromt fenders!!!!!
RELL88
QUOTE (Mr.24's @ May 13 2009, 11:52 PM) *
X2 1350 for a fuckin rotatin assembly is stupid when they going for 600 to 700 balanced and all with the srp or je lightweight piston who in the fuck is doing your car? Cuz i want in on some of this cash


X2, I'm guessing its not forged either if so I must have skipped past that. If its all forged thats not a bad price at all. If it no then yeah you got....got.

2k in the engine bay? dry.gif


And to be honest ya motor dont even look kandy to me imo, no hate at all. It just looks, well.................green.
G Body
QUOTE (Mr.24's @ May 13 2009, 06:52 PM) *
X2 1350 for a fuckin rotatin assembly is stupid when they going for 600 to 700 balanced and all with the srp or je lightweight piston who in the fuck is doing your car? Cuz i want in on some of this cash

naw that aint the finnal our come of the motor, it got to go back into the car i have alot of top of da line high performnce sh!* in the motor. oh and about the rotating assembly. i bought the 383 short block with all the rotating assembly for the 1350. i traded my 350 block which was locked up for the 383 short block they where tryin to get 1800 off it but the dude who it belonged to put 500 down on it at the machine shop and never came back for it. so my mechanic told me if i payed the remaining balance off then it was mine!! so is 1350 a decent price for a 383 short block with eagle rods and crank??
G Body
QUOTE (941 Floatin' @ May 13 2009, 06:53 PM) *
am i reading this rite? you paid 2stax juz for the engine bay to get sprayed? lol i hope i read that wrong

you read it right put ole boy sanded down my fenders and radiator support down and kandied everything under the hood firewall, frame and kandied the suspension, and rewired everything show case quality is 2000 to much for all that
TRACE
drama.gif Straight up homie...them cats doing all your engine work, just screwed you...........and why are your headers white...i think ceramic woulda looked better??
G Body
QUOTE (RELL88 @ May 14 2009, 12:43 AM) *
X2, I'm guessing its not forged either if so I must have skipped past that. If its all forged thats not a bad price at all. If it no then yeah you got....got.

2k in the engine bay? dry.gif


And to be honest ya motor dont even look kandy to me imo, no hate at all. It just looks, well.................green.

get off me lol!! yeah its forged. and the motor kandy HOK!! it shows up better out in the sun. i have more pics coming soon!!!
G Body
QUOTE (St. Pete @ May 13 2009, 07:28 PM) *
yeah man bad bizz,

hell even some of ya chrome parts on ya motor got rust on em!

everybody plays the fool................. sometimes

BUT SHEEEEEEEEEEEEIT!

where u see rust at big dawg!!!
G Body
QUOTE (veltboy618 @ May 13 2009, 07:18 PM) *
x2 paying that huch was a badidea.gif . You got [code][/code] homie

nope thats not the final out come. how much would u pay for a 383?
G Body
QUOTE (TRACE @ May 14 2009, 11:30 AM) *
drama.gif Straight up homie...them cats doing all your engine work, just screwed you...........and why are your headers white...i think ceramic woulda looked better??

they are ceramic. my mechanic painted them white becouse white draws less heat, they will stay cooler. he also painted the inside of my block white so the oil can stay cooler as well!! what you think about that? check the block out
TRACE
QUOTE (G Body @ May 14 2009, 05:03 PM) *
they are ceramic. my mechanic painted them white becouse white draws less heat, they will stay cooler. he also painted the inside of my block white so the oil can stay cooler as well!! what you think about that? check the block out


So you paid all that money for ceramic headers...and not show them off....should have went with regular headers!!
RELL88
The price you paid was just crazy, now if you had a Supercharger somewhere on there I could understand that price you paid..

I would like to see some dyno numbers of this car once its all put together.
St. Pete
Dont think anyone here is trying to bash you or your motor, Just answering the question that you asked, what do folks think.

QUOTE (G Body @ May 14 2009, 03:40 PM) *
you read it right put ole boy sanded down my fenders and radiator support down and kandied everything under the hood firewall, frame and kandied the suspension, and rewired everything show case quality is 2000 to much for all that


yes thats Waaaaay too much for that. & that block is not kandy dawg. If your block is kandy I guess mines is too.



QUOTE (G Body @ May 14 2009, 05:03 PM) *
they are ceramic. my mechanic painted them white becouse white draws less heat, they will stay cooler. he also painted the inside of my block white so the oil can stay cooler as well!! what you think about that? check the block out


I have to say, that is a Lie within itsself. The ceramic coating is what keeps temps cooler, Painting ceramic coating is like putting a ice cube in ice cream. It serves no purpose. & you can also see through the white paint & its not ceramic under there (dont say they had to sand it down to paint it white, because that would defeat the purpose of getting ceramic in the first place)

Like trace said you should have just stayed Ceramic (wont debate you thata there are or are not we both know the truth)

white spray? or this?



QUOTE (G Body @ May 14 2009, 05:03 PM) *
where u see rust at big dawg!!!


I circle'd the problem areas (mosly ya valve covers & headers)



& they did not even use ARP bolts on your intake or timing cover, so lord knows what they use on the inside and your heads if they did'nt use them in the simple areas.

Just sounds like you bought some stuff that folks told you this is what they did too it. Got rip'd off bruh & its fucked up. Or you lying on that price (which I dont see why you would do that?)

Ya live and learn homie. for 9 stacks You suppose to have Waaaaaaaaaaaay more than that. Not a cheap air cleaner, cheap distributor, painted over old headers, no Arp bolts, cheap ebay oil pan, etc. etc.

Intake is nice looks like a rpm air gap with the endurashine!
TRACE
drama.gif Oh yeah...i WOULDNT put kandy on an engine block...the heat from the block will eat that paint alive...thats why they made "engine paint"....it will stand up to the heat!!
St. Pete
you can kandy a block, just has to be prep'd right. would'nt think its best for a car driven alot but it can be done & hold pretty decent.

Kandy block & damn near everything else



Mr.24's
QUOTE (St. Pete @ May 14 2009, 05:22 PM) *
you can kandy a block, just has to be prep'd right. would'nt think its best for a car driven alot but it can be done & hold pretty decent.

Kandy block & damn near everything else




X2 if your motor is getting so hot that the paint wont stay on the block you got problems motors should not be getting that hot.
Heat snipersmilie.gif motors
RELL88
Yeah you can kandy a block, I wouldnt do it personally. Black or silver ( I hate when there painted orange)

Mr.24's
What shop is doing your work? drama.gif
CROWN99
seriously I would asked have st. pete and other board members for help before trusting a mechanic with 9 stacks. When I build my motor all I am doing is a Holley top end kit, 750 mech carb, MSD set up,hooker cermanic headers , and minor machine work. I will be installing this myself to saving money .All this is priced under 4 stacks
St. Pete
man for 9 stack You suppose to have fucking beast! power & looks wise. NOT THAT

hell im cleaner than that (no hate or nothing like that) & Im under 3500
IRideChevys
9 stacks...... u suppose to have a supercharger, nitrous or turbo plus forged internals.... period


nigga u got RAPED!!

all these motors i posted are less than what you spent and runnin wayy harder..

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/92/Drag...Y-INJECTED.html

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/92/Drag...-all-jesel.html

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/92/Drag...ARB-TO-PAN.html

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/92/Drag...-Block-406.html

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/92/Drag...-BBC-Motor.html
O-DOG
man i'm in the wrong business.. that fool probably made an extra $7,000 of ya with the parts i'm looking at on that motor..
St. Pete
QUOTE (O-DOG @ May 15 2009, 01:39 AM) *
man i'm in the wrong business.. that fool probably made an extra $7,000 of ya with the parts i'm looking at on that motor..



tell me bout it, look like stock vortec heads @ that.

they only can but so much lift & thats after machine'n so cant be no serious cam in there

Maaaaan go get yo money back man!!!!!!
Lilfurlow904
damn shame @ that engine and the price he payed for it..coula spent half wit my mechanic and been ohhhh weeeee
941 Floatin'
ya imma have way under that and look juz bout the same..cept not doin kandy cuz my mechanic said it holds in heat more and im juz building a nice street car..so less heat the better...n i could make my motor a 383 stroker if i wanted to and already have the same intake,carb and all that that you already got...n i only paid 700 with a trans so far...i think the guy made you pay for the most expensive stuff and you really aint need it or he said he got you it and didnt (iono that much bout engines yet juz by looks) but ive been learning tearing mine down with my mechanic...o and no hate eitha bruh
G Body
QUOTE (IRideChevys @ May 14 2009, 08:22 PM) *

I know that but you got to keep it in consideration that all the other parts added up as well, i needed hoses, radiator, electric, fans, new transmission, etc, and all that exra stuff added up!!! and with the blocks you shown. say if i would have bought one of them, then i would still have to buy my the radiator, fans, fuel lines, labor, etc and then i probably'd be lookin at 15-14 stacks
G Body
QUOTE (RELL88 @ May 14 2009, 12:47 PM) *
The price you paid was just crazy, now if you had a Supercharger somewhere on there I could understand that price you paid..

I would like to see some dyno numbers of this car once its all put together.

YEA I GOT U. I WILL POST MORE PICS AND DYNO #s AS SOON AS IT GET FINISHED!!!
St. Pete
QUOTE (G Body @ May 15 2009, 09:02 AM) *
I know that but you got to keep it in consideration that all the other parts added up as well, i needed hoses, radiator, electric, fans, new transmission, etc, and all that exra stuff added up!!! and with the blocks you shown. say if i would have bought one of them, then i would still have to buy my the radiator, fans, fuel lines, labor, etc and then i probably'd be lookin at 15-14 stacks



Bro where you shop @, or who is charge'n you this much money? a radiator, trans, fuel lines, etc etc does not cost no 5-6 stacks.
G Body
QUOTE (IRideChevys @ May 14 2009, 08:22 PM) *

Man them motors cost like 9 and 10 bands. and all of them used!!! you dont even get a warranty that comes with them. they probably ran them hard racing and tryin to come up off them and screw someone i aint say i payed 9 stacks for the block in the pic
CROWN99
i hope yall help me when I start my build so I don't waste no money
TRACE
QUOTE (St. Pete @ May 14 2009, 09:22 PM) *
you can kandy a block, just has to be prep'd right. would'nt think its best for a car driven alot but it can be done & hold pretty decent.


Ok...im so used to using the engine enamel paint...comes in ALOT of bright ass colors...u would think its kandy...lol!!
St. Pete
QUOTE (TRACE @ May 15 2009, 03:29 PM) *
Ok...im so used to using the engine enamel paint...comes in ALOT of bright ass colors...u would think its kandy...lol!!



Like he is thinking lol
TRACE
QUOTE (St. Pete @ May 15 2009, 03:36 PM) *
Like he is thinking lol


owned.gif !!
G Body
QUOTE (CROWN99 @ May 15 2009, 09:30 AM) *
i hope yall help me when I start my build so I don't waste no money

No it realy aint waistin money the motor by itself wid all the parts rocker arms, cam etc came out around $4800
+ a tranny $1300, labor + and some major body work on the front end added up. I know we in a recession and all but you cant go buy some cheap ole bo-bo-bullsh*t and put off in a motor and espect it to be at best!!
G Body
QUOTE (TRACE @ May 15 2009, 10:43 AM) *
owned.gif !!

do u think i can paint the car wid some of it>? that'd be a sharp kandy paint
G Body
QUOTE (St. Pete @ May 14 2009, 02:59 PM) *
Dont think anyone here is trying to bash you or your motor, Just answering the question that you asked, what do folks think.



yes thats Waaaaay too much for that. & that block is not kandy dawg. If your block is kandy I guess mines is too.





I have to say, that is a Lie within itsself. The ceramic coating is what keeps temps cooler, Painting ceramic coating is like putting a ice cube in ice cream. It serves no purpose. & you can also see through the white paint & its not ceramic under there (dont say they had to sand it down to paint it white, because that would defeat the purpose of getting ceramic in the first place)

Like trace said you should have just stayed Ceramic (wont debate you thata there are or are not we both know the truth)

white spray? or this?





I circle'd the problem areas (mosly ya valve covers & headers)



& they did not even use ARP bolts on your intake or timing cover, so lord knows what they use on the inside and your heads if they did'nt use them in the simple areas.

Just sounds like you bought some stuff that folks told you this is what they did too it. Got rip'd off bruh & its fucked up. Or you lying on that price (which I dont see why you would do that?)

Ya live and learn homie. for 9 stacks You suppose to have Waaaaaaaaaaaay more than that. Not a cheap air cleaner, cheap distributor, painted over old headers, no Arp bolts, cheap ebay oil pan, etc. etc.

Intake is nice looks like a rpm air gap with the endurashine!

You got to bare wid me man i dont know a whole lot about motors!! The ARP bolts for like drag racin and stuff aint it? hey can u tell me anything about tapping and torqing bolts....??? I got the best of the best. in the pic that u see. the air cleaner on the motor was a temporary air cleaner somthing to put over the carb so that no moisture could get in , but i have some kind of cone shaped K&N airfilter now the headers they aitn old and they aint new i bought them last year round this time and bolted them to a 350 but never crunk it up. and the rain got to them I highly doubt if the oil pan came from Ebay who shops there
CHEVY 3O9
them chrome oil pans are known to leak
RELL88
QUOTE (G Body @ May 15 2009, 05:39 PM) *
Ebay who shops there


EBAY FTW, you just gotta know how to buy shit from there and buy the right things
Lilfurlow904
id pay 2k for that motor at the most....and thas pushing it
Mr.24's
QUOTE (St. Pete @ May 15 2009, 09:36 AM) *
Bro where you shop @, or who is charge'n you this much money? a radiator, trans, fuel lines, etc etc does not cost no 5-6 stacks.

hmmmm.gif drama.gif

QUOTE (CHEVY 3O9 @ May 15 2009, 01:46 PM) *
them chrome oil pans are known to leak

X2
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