I heard on newer vics 24s will poke out no matter what offset, is this true? if not, what offset do i need 4 them to not poke out or have minimal pokin out ? thanks

2003 Marauder has the same offset. U need a +34 to 45 offset. These are 9.5 wide with a +35 offset & they dont stick out much more than the stock wheels do

just found out i may be runnin into more problems. do the 03 n up vics have springs up front or struts? i planned to put knuckle/ twist ins into the front n back springs will that work on the newer vics? i just wanted 2 get bout 2 inches above the wheel so i could support the weight of 4 12s in the trunk and ride 4 deep once in awhile. dont want cups cuz i dont want 2 sit that high.

THANK U! thats A Big help. do u have knucles on ur merc? and does it rub any when u have 3-4 people ridin wit u?

I would say try a 24X9 or smaller width rim cuz when u make a sharp turn it rubs that plastic inside. But yeah, I got knuckles up front in the coilovers & I put air shocks in the back. The back still sat at least 1 inch over the wheel without air in the shocks, so they're just in case I let people ride. So, no it doesnt rub in the back but i dont know how it would do without the air shocks. Mine used to rub (when 4 deep) when i had the factory air bags in the back but I took them out when the compressor went out. Im sure sumbody else will come in here & tell u a better way to do it though, so just wait a lil while & see.

most people I know wit those models use the knuckles

good lookin on the info. im puttin knuckles in the front coil overs. im still confused bout the back tho cuz it has air bag suspension. was thinkn bout usin air shocks if they will work (I read they might not work cuz the location of the stock shocks on newer vics) or replacing the air bags wit regular coil springs wit knuckles in them. dont really wana go through all that tho

I suggest pullin out them bags & puttin in springs. I used these right here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LINCOLN-TOW...8#ht_1327wt_748

Ok im replacin the air bags in the back wit coil springs..mite add a knuckle or 2. last question, do anybody kno what kind of air shocks i can use on the back? the f150 ones are to wide for these new vics so i dont kno what my other options are. im usin 275-25-24 or 255-30-24, I just want to hav enough lift to not rub 4 deep and hav a big system in the trunk.

You can go with as low as a +30 offset and be fine as well. Car has coilovers up front, knuckes (small ones) are the only thing that will fit, but 4 will get you enought height for those skinny 4s you mention.

Air shocks going to be a problem in the rear, Ford moved the shock to the outside of the frame, so most airshocks are too wide and will rub the back tires. Best bet is to have a shop relocate the rear shock mounts to the inside of the frame like on the older Vics and Mercs (pre 02), then you can go with some more options.

If im not mistaken, 04/05 F150 shocks would work on those cars, but not with the shocks in the stock location.

Im having coil springs put in on monday in the back, u think i could get a couple inches by puttin in some of the big knuckles in them or would that not work wit the stock shocks? if not im gonna just go ahead and get them mounts relocated.

That would work, or you could use the wind up blocks that most people use. I have a set in the rear of my car for the same reason, and it helps with the weight of a system and people and keeping the rear from dragging.

I might use a cutdown cup at some point, if I upgrade to a larger system or use some HD springs to help with the weight.

Really, all you going to need with those tires is a few knuckles up front and some wind up blocks in the rear, should be good to go.

Aight cool g.l. im all set now then. just wonderin how does ur shit ride? Do u take it on the highway and what tire size are u on

Right now, still on stocks. Had put the knuckles up front and the blocks in the rear for a set of 255/30/24s I was suppose to be getting, but things came up at the crib and it fell through. The ride is a little firmer with them in their but nothing you cant deal with.

He right man, jus do it like that cuz its the easiest way. The air shocks i got aint made for the marauder, but we made em fit. But to avoid that, just do wut he said & u'll b straight. U can go on the highway & be straight wit em too. Im in Lansing & I drive to Jackson all the time. Thats as far as Ive been on em, but u'll be straight cuz its alot of people that drive further than that all the time.

ok im confused as fuck...i just looked under my shit and theres regular coils all tha way around...no air bags or coil overs.


I already ordered a +30 offset wheel....is this gon effect me since I dont got them coil overs n bags?

plz help ASAP so incase I fucked up I can try to get my wheels changed b4 they shipped to me.

its a poilce interceptor if that helps.

all vics use springs all the way around, just they did yall front end funny as fuck, so the offset is dumb fucked, this how you can tell, look at the rear wheel well and if your rear shock is located on the tire side of the frame then you need atleast a +30 offset wheel, thats regardless all crownvic 2003 and up have that offset police intereceptor etc

yea my rear shock is close to the wheel, im just goin crazy right now thinkin i ordered tha wrong shit cuz im gettin mixed opinions......pitstopwheels tryed to tell me i need +15...when i thought i need +30...so thats wut I ordred (tha +30)....then i called some rim shops in tha d...2 of them tryna tell me a need +15 and the other said i need +30 cuz the offset on 03 n up vics is like tha marauder...ima post a pic o9f my vic shock in sec...can u tell me if this wut u mean by shock on tire side....

yeah but dude if your vic is a 05 trust believe in me you need that +30 like real talk nigga when i say me and crownvicdriver can change and do anything to a vic believe me, we can thats why it's so hard for me to convert to another car cause i know these cars so so so well

its a 04, i posted this right when i was gon buy it so i though it was 05.....im puttin my faith in u tho mane. thanks.

hell yeah...............now take a pic of the front

front

yeah i was jus gonna say get a pic of the front. i didnt kno all vics just had springs all around. i wonder if he can use them load carriers wit the extenders like u did?

im just gon go knuckles in front n wind up blocks in back

hell hell hell yeah thats that bullshit alright

yeah thats right. i posted that b4 i could see the front pic on this slow ass phone.

LLS. good lookin out tho my nigga, preciate it....put me at ease bout this shit. cant imagine tha stress when i try to go 6's next year.

.............a couple of cats i know just shave the back the of rim down a lil bit

u mean on 6's to make tha offset a lil higher

yep

Real talk their, my man knows about these cars like I do. Esp this year and all the bullshit with the suspension.

And I just got your PM Merc, but I think the question got answered here. You did right with the +30s, trust me you will see when you mount up.

The Crown Vic Lx Sport is the only 03+ Vic with air bags on the rear. A lot of people don't know but, the air suspension is adjustable. I got air ride on my 95 Vic and I got more inches just by adjusting the height sensor. I don't have it maxed out but, it looks like it'll go atleast 3 inches over stock height.

I don't like how the 03+ Vics have that super high FWD offset because it makes mounting big wheels a little harder. They did the same thing with the 05+ Mustangs.

x2 on that air bag thing, a dude from my home town found a slick way to get his up, he got this one super big dude and 5 other guys to sit on the trunk, and let that bitch pump up all the way, then he took out the sensor or something and now he on 6s

any body know where i can find the offset of 26" davin blak serie rims thinking bout getting a 04 later this year how would i go bout lifting it 3 or 4 inches

ok...NEW problem....

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http://www.kingofthestreetgarage.com/forum...showtopic=74546


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I swear i be runnin into a new problem everyday. i was told knuckles n wind up blocks would get me a couple inches on my 04 vic, im runnin 255 30 24 and gon hav 4 12s in tha trunk. my rims supposed 2 b comin in tha mail 2day n now u sayin knuckles aint gon do much. O yea my shit got coils all tha way around 2. i dont see no struts under there


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...am i fucked? my rims gon be here tomorrow morning i was gettin ready to mount up...damnit.... i regret coppin an 04...shoulda got 02 or lower...

Knuckles probaly will u help u cause u going with 255/30/24 so it shouldn't be no problem

Man u should b good. just grab a couple sets of knuckles from autozone for the front. obviously u gotta take off the wheel to put em in, so wait til u ready to mount the 4s. if them springs are still good, it'll b kinda hard to get em in cuz the spring will b tight. then grab sum of them wind up spacers for the back. u should b good without em, but use em to get the height u want. o yeah, u might have to mess wit the plastic up front too, but thats nuthin

is the wind up one the ones with 2 plates and some bolts and nuts

yeah thats them. i never tried em, but my cuzin said they worked good on his caprice

i bought them for a caprice before for the front but my coil spring was sagin so much i couldnt even get them in when i sold it i let them have it

i mean yea thats was my OG plan but wut i think he sayin is that tha top part holding the coil is attached to the lower control arm...so even if u put knuckles in, it wont lift it any it will just stretch the spring and stiffen it....not sure tho. also he said i have struts inside my coil springs or sumthin...imma check it out later....but if thats true ima try them lil knuckles in there like i planned b4

what are them shocks u put on ur bro shit in tha front? if tha knuckle shit dont work out thats my next option along wit relocating tha shocks in tha back.


n do any1 kno how bad bodylifts show on vics? any pics? i mite have to go that route as my final option if none of this shit work.....even tho i hate them....i got a quote for a 2 inch body lift for 200 today..

yea body lift aint that bad for vics or mercs u can get pics in my body lift topic iin gen talk

my shit was almost touchin the front fender before i put them knuckles in. now i got a couple inches over it, so believe me they work. that lift kit he talkin bout is right too though, maybe its more stable or the "right way to do it" and that mounts up on top like he said. maybe just use the knuckles til u get that kit or the body lift. i still aint had a prob wit my knuckles after 2 years though. and them shocks i put in my brother shit were load carrier shocks n i put stud extenders on em, but those only work on shit older than 03s

Ay was ur coil overs/struts inside tha actual coil spring? like did u hav 2 take tha spring out 2 get 2 it? Crown vic driver said sumthn like tha strut is in tha middle of tha spring when u take it out. knuckles is tha main shit i wana do i dont wana go through that cup or body lift shit, its just a last resort.

yeah, its struts wit the coil around it. if u only doin knuckles, u dont have to take nuthin out. just jack up the car, take off the wheel, and twist the knuckles in between the coils. wut fried is talkin bout is the strut lift kit. wit that u prolly gotta take it all out to put the plate on top of the strut tower, then put the cups under your springs in the back and u'll b sittin like that vic he posted.

Aight cool thx man. but ay do u got ur knuckles in ur front struts or tha springs? cuz i thought u said b4 u had lil knuckles in ur struts or do our cars got diff set ups?

u can only twist em into the coils around the strut. u'll see when u get under there to do it, all u need is a ratchet and u just twist em in between the coils.

just buy the lift springs n ur shit will sit like this. thats all this one has.... btw..... he has +30 offsetClick to view attachment

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